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I have a few issues to demonstrate i this video I attached.

I am sorry it is 11 minutes long, but I really wanted to demonstrate the issues live so please just bear with me on the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6S_jjAT...e=youtu.be
[settings]
move_mouse_x_percentage= .03
move_mouse_y_percentage=.97
table_width=508
table_height=390
total_slots=36
slot1x=-2
slot1y=0
slot2x=21
slot2y=23
slot3x=43
slot3y=46
slot4x=65
slot4y=68
stack_slot=0
newtables_slot=grid
move_to_grid=never
oldtables_duration=5
oldtables_slot=0
scan_mode=DWM
play_mode=tile
slot5x=86
slot5y=93
slot6x=107
slot6y=115
slot7x=128
slot7y=138
slot8x=148
slot8y=162
slot9x=0
slot9y=546
slot10x=21
slot10y=569
slot11x=47
slot11y=589
slot12x=71
slot12y=613
slot13x=107
slot13y=636
activate_most_urgent=1
activate_table_under_mouse=1
highlight_active_win=1
move_mouse_to_most_urgent=1
left_click_detection=1
stack_when_clicking_call_or_bet=0
stack_table_at_end_of_hand=0
drag_drop_swap_slots=1
minimize_to_tray=0
show_table_count_while_running=0
show_session_timer=0
move_888_popups=1
close_bovada_popups=1
stars_include_logged_in_as=0
notify_new_tables=0
notify_old_tables=1
notify_keep_in_grid=0
notify_ignore_table=0
notify_move_to_grid=0
notify_end_of_hand=0
notification_duration=3
hotkeys_fire_on_release=1
allow_action_hotkeys_on_ignored_tables=0
click_bet_for_betsize_hotkeys=0
click_bet_for_betxbb_hotkeys=0
also_keep_in_grid_when_move_to_slot_x=0
fold_checkbox_setting=Fold + Check/Fold
also_stack_table_for_betsizeX=0
focus_betbox=0
click_ftp_timebank=0
detect_hidden_windows=0
auto_accept_stars_waitlists=0
slot14x=656
slot14y=0
slot15x=676
slot15y=23
slot16x=697
slot16y=46
slot17x=717
slot17y=68
slot18x=741
slot18y=93
slot19x=761
slot19y=115
slot20x=783
slot20y=138
slot21x=805
slot21y=162
slot22x=828
slot22y=186
slot23x=849
slot23y=210
slot24x=873
slot24y=234
slot25x=894
slot25y=257
slot26x=916
slot26y=288
slot27x=942
slot27y=331
slot28x=973
slot28y=367
slot29x=397
slot29y=660
slot30x=1095
slot30y=660
slot31x=-506
slot31y=0
slot32x=-508
slot32y=389
slot33x=-1014
slot33y=0
slot34x=-1014
slot34y=389
slot35x=-1522
slot35y=0
slot36x=-1522
slot36y=389
[general]
show_walkthru=0
gui_x=1147
gui_y=569
last_tab=
filename=Tile2.ini
is_reloading=0
version=2.85
win_ver=6.1.7601
v=fu
v285_msg=0
[sites]
BovadaBodog_included_executable_path=C:\Bovada\Lobby.exe
BovadaBodog_included_resized_table_width=508
BovadaBodog_included_resized_table_height=390
BovadaBodog_included_fold_color=0x30303
BovadaBodog_included_call_color=0x181818
BovadaBodog_included_bet_color=0x30303
number_of_sites=2
included_sites=BovadaBodog,WinningPoker
WinningPoker_included_executable_path=C:\FabulousPoker\FabulousPoker.exe
WinningPoker_included_resized_table_width=508
WinningPoker_included_resized_table_height=390
WinningPoker_included_fold_color=0x111368
WinningPoker_included_call_color=0x3d3c84
WinningPoker_included_bet_color=0x3a3982
[hotkeys]
number_of_hotkeys=17
hotkey1action=Fold + Stack table
hotkey1key=F1
hotkey2action=Call
hotkey2key=F2
hotkey3action=Bet
hotkey3key=F3
hotkey4action=Move table Up
hotkey4key=Up
hotkey5action=Move table Down
hotkey5key=Down
hotkey6action=Move table Left
hotkey6key=Left
hotkey7action=Move table Right
hotkey7key=Right
hotkey8action=Re-fill grid tables
hotkey8key=^R
hotkey9action=Activate most urgent and move mouse
hotkey9key=^Z
hotkey10action=Activate most urgent and move mouse
hotkey10key=XButton1
hotkey11action=Keep table in grid
hotkey11key=MButton
hotkey12action=Stack all tables
hotkey12key=Esc
hotkey13action=Send table to bottom
hotkey13key=^N
hotkey14action=Send table to bottom
hotkey14key=XButton2
hotkey15action=Move mouse to next slot
hotkey15key=^V
hotkey16action=Move mouse to previous slot
hotkey16key=^C
hotkey17action=Toggle Move Mouse to Active Table
hotkey17key=^!Z
send_table_under_mouse=1
At 3:22, 5:14, 5:29, all of those instances show a pattern. In all of those hands, you are either facing or calling an all-in. In those cases, the betbox is not visible.

SaT detects that action is required in two ways. 1. if the betbox in visible, 2. if the Fold button is visible. Apparently #1 is working fine, but #2 is failing. I'm not sure exactly why that is.

Did you perhaps initially set up WinningPoker with a different skin? Can you try Removing and re-Including the site, and testing this issue specifically again (when facing or calling an allin when your betbox isn't visible)? If it still fails, can you try creating a File -> New Layout with a different slot size, basing it off of a WinningPoker table that you resize with your mouse, and see if it changes anything?
As for pressing Stop, that delay may just have been because the website may have been offline. If the program is encountering a delay connecting to the website, then you will notice that lag. Usually this isn't a problem, but the site was offline for about 25 minutes a few days ago. This is the same as when you are switching to a different layout. Any time you see that "Please wait.." message, it means that SaT is attempting to connect to the website. This happens at a few different times. 1. Upon program launch, SaT checks the website for a new version. 2. Upon 'Start' it checks to validate your license or trial. 3. Upon 'Stop' or close, it unlocks your license. Do you always see this problem or was it just that day? The delay you're noticing should NOT be happening regularly. When the main website is down, SaT tries to first connect to the main website, and if it fails, it then tries a backup website. Thats the cause of the delay. If you are seeing this regularly then its definitely an issue.

'Left mouse click detection' simply controls what happens if you click on the 'fold' button when a table is in the grid, in which case it will move the table back to the stack. And also inf\ 'Move to grid' = 'When entering pot', it will also detect if you clicked 'call' or 'bet' and move the table from stack to grid. If you are using a Tile only mode, then this setting shouldn't matter for either of those as far as I remember.
actually i do use a different skin on this site than b4.

So i guess removing and re-including will probably solve that one. Thanks.

Te problem with connecting to the site.  It was not a problem until this week. about 2 days ago i noticed signifigant lag starting and stopping SaT. 

It is about 90% of the time these last few days, with 10% of the time I get no lag at all.
I did cancel my sub, then make a new one. Perhaps the security is holding me upbecause of the difference in license key info w the same old machine info?
(02-26-2016, 08:59 AM)DS1 Wrote: [ -> ]actually i do use a different skin on this site than b4.

So i guess removing and re-including will probably solve that one. Thanks.

Yes that could definitely affect SaT from not detecting the all-in situations.

(02-26-2016, 08:59 AM)DS1 Wrote: [ -> ]Te problem with connecting to the site.  It was not a problem until this week. about 2 days ago i noticed signifigant lag starting and stopping SaT. 

It is about 90% of the time these last few days, with 10% of the time I get no lag at all.
(02-26-2016, 09:00 AM)DS1 Wrote: [ -> ]I did cancel my sub, then make a new one. Perhaps the security is holding me upbecause of the difference in license key info w the same old machine info?

I don't think cancelling your subscription should matter, or using a new license key. Did you install anything new on your machine, such as a VPN program or Hola browser app, or anything that may affect your connections?
I tried changing the video card in my cpu, found a ton of dust and did not clean it, could that actually affect my internet connection? I am connected vie cable and wired in.

I mean I also noticed some oddly timed browser lags in the same time period as the lags w SaT. Possibly could be related but the only other difference is that the internet guy came and drilled a new hole in the wall so i could move my router to the basement. I am using the same cable though, just one splitter added to extend it a bit. My connection speed has been mostly at 90 mbps DL but occasionally at 30 mbps, steady aty 12 UL and always an 11-12 ping.

I should note that often wherever there is lag, some programs like my actual poker sites and netflix work fine while others like SaT and youtube do not.
(02-26-2016, 03:21 PM)DS1 Wrote: [ -> ]I tried changing the video card in my cpu, found a ton of dust and did not clean it, could that actually affect my internet connection? I am connected vie cable and wired in.

No this wouldn't affect your internet connection.

(02-26-2016, 03:21 PM)DS1 Wrote: [ -> ]I mean I also noticed some oddly timed browser lags in the same time period as the lags w SaT. Possibly could be related but the only other difference is that the internet guy came and drilled a new hole in the wall so i could move my router to the basement. I am using the same cable though, just one splitter added to extend it a bit. My connection speed has been mostly at 90 mbps DL but occasionally at 30 mbps, steady aty 12 UL and always an 11-12 ping.

I should note that often wherever there is lag, some programs like my actual poker sites and netflix work fine while others like SaT and youtube do not.

If random things are working (poker clients, netflix) and random are not (SaT, youtube) then this will be very difficult to diagnose.

Although the software lags with the "Please wait..." message, it does eventually succeed correct? Or does it fail with an "Internet connection error" message?
No it does eventually succeed.

Actually its been behaving better these days so maybe it jsut fixed itself.
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