(02-19-2014, 06:07 AM)SNGrinder Wrote: [ -> ]I've been using the Stars hotkeys for betting, rather than S&T's. That should help with moving the tables to the grid, then...but do you think this would have an affect on the other problem?
Ok, this is definitely the problem for your Move To Grid = After Entering Pot issue. If you want to continue to use Stars built in hotkeys instead of SaT, then you would need to set up 'External VPIP' hotkeys within SaT to match those Stars hotkeys for bet/call. I don't recommend doing it this way. I prefer users to use SaT's hotkeys for it all. But some people do it this way or they use TN for their betpot hotkeys and similarly set up External VPIP hotkeys in SaT.
Quote:1) The "initial table" gets put next in line when it disappears, which is why it shows up for a split second after I act on the new table. I know this because I have a hotkey set to go to "next in line" through Tableninja, and when I press it, it goes to the initial table (once again, only for a split second before the new table pops back in front).
I'm not sure how TN determines the 'next in line'. So this doesn't really provide us any new information. In fact, this actually can confuse the issue somewhat. I wonder if there is some feature in TN that is conflicting with SaT or Stars.
We need to narrow down what is causing the problem specifically before we can attempt to bug fix it. I have some things for you to test at the bottom.
Quote:2) The problem occurs whether or not I have any tables in the grid. This doesn't seem to matter.
Ok. I thought it would only occur if you had tables in the grid. So maybe the problem is not what I had thought.
Quote:3) I've never experienced a case where the "new" table stealing focus was in the grid. It seems to always be a table from the stack that is jumping in front.
Right I understand. To be clear, both tables of this problem are tables in the stack, right? The initial table is in the stack, and another stack table steals focus and comes on top of it in the stack?
I was previously curious if these tables would jump in front of each other only when there was a table in the grid that also required action.
Quote:4) The problem doesn't seem to occur to tables that are already in the grid when I'm dealt a hand. HOWEVER, once the problem occurs on a table and I catch it in time to move it to the grid, this doesn't fix the issue on that table. So moving the table to the grid doesn't fix it, it just seems that the problem doesn't target tables that are in the grid at the start of a hand.
5) After I moved the initial table to the grid, it refuses to "stay in front". Even if the tables around it don't have any available action for me, they still jump in front. I'll give an example: My grid tables overlap slightly...so when I go to click "call" on the "initial table" that I've moved to the grid, often times other tables will still jump in front and overlap parts of the initial table so I can't act. I can move the table around until I find a spot where I can get to the proper actions, but I felt like this was important to say because it shows that other tables are jumping in front of this initial table no matter what (even when it's not my turn to act). Which is weird to me, considering it has that table listed as "next in line".
Would is be worthwhile to create an entirely new layout? I use the hyper-simple theme is that makes any difference, by the way.
Yes, very useful info. The fact that you overlap grid tables might actually help us find this bug. I don't think creating a new layout should matter.
The "next in line" is irrelevant because that is something specific to TN and I don't know how they are keeping track of tables.
Since you point out that when you move this initial table into grid, other tables that don't require action will jump in front of it, then I assume that for normal working tables, those tables stay on top in the grid, and other tables do not jump in front? I just want to confirm the normal state for your setup, and that this bug is only specific to certain tables.
Finally, yes thank you for telling me that you use HyperSimple. This theme has had a specific issue in the past.
Please test/confirm the following:
1. When you ran
this test, are you certain that the tables moved out of the stack and into the grid only after it was your turn to act? HyperSimple has a
known issue where tables will move to the grid prematurely when you are dealt cards, instead of when action is required. Its not actually when you are dealt cards, but rather when the pre-action fold checkbox is visible. This is because that checkbox is the same light blue color as the actual fold button itself. So please confirm that test for me once more.
2. Can you test and see if this issue happens with TN off, Stars 'Pop table to front' off, and only SaT on?
3. If still not solved, then with TN still off, I would then want you to test using a different Stars theme, just to see if this is the problem. Change your table theme within Stars, and then remove PokerStarsHyperSimple from SaT and Include the appropriate Stars site within SaT. Then test and see if the problem persists.