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Posted by SaT_Admin - 03-08-2016, 02:02 AM
(03-07-2016, 03:59 PM)Jon Wrote:
(02-25-2016, 05:59 PM)SaT_Admin Wrote: At 3:22, 5:14, 5:29, all of those instances show a pattern. In all of those hands, you are either facing or calling an all-in. In those cases, the betbox is not visible.

SaT detects that action is required in two ways. 1. if the betbox in visible, 2. if the Fold button is visible. Apparently #1 is working fine, but #2 is failing. I'm not sure exactly why that is.

Did you perhaps initially set up WinningPoker with a different skin? Can you try Removing and re-Including the site, and testing this issue specifically again (when facing or calling an allin when your betbox isn't visible)? If it still fails, can you try creating a File -> New Layout with a different slot size, basing it off of a WinningPoker table that you resize with your mouse, and see if it changes anything?


I have found I am having this same issue, particularly noticeable vs every all in, and I am usually wanting to call and it folds my hand. Is there an easy way to be able to smoothly cycle between tables in a stack? None of the options i have tried so far(cycle stack forward, activate urgent table, and send table to buttom) work very well. In all of them it seems to change tables for a split second, but then whatever table was on top typically moves right back. I for sure have the auto switch between tables option turned off(playing on WPN).


Yes exactly. If its only happening when facing an all-in, then that may be the problem. On WPN, SaT first looks for the visibility of the betbox. Secondarily, it looks for the visibility of the Call button. I would recommend running the Test described on this page, using those settings described, and check and see if it works or not when facing an all-in. At play money, its easy to test because people are shoving often. And also, you could bet 99% of your stack and then just Fold to any raise, leaving yourself with 1bb for the next hand.
http://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/tab...ncorrectly

But what do you mean that you're "wanting to call but it folds your hand"? Are you using a hotkey when you notice this problem?

Cycling thru the stack is just a workaround. I would rather solve the real problem, which is the tables not popping up. If we can get that working correctly, then that shouldnt really matter.
Posted by Jon - 03-07-2016, 03:59 PM
(02-25-2016, 05:59 PM)SaT_Admin Wrote: At 3:22, 5:14, 5:29, all of those instances show a pattern. In all of those hands, you are either facing or calling an all-in. In those cases, the betbox is not visible.

SaT detects that action is required in two ways. 1. if the betbox in visible, 2. if the Fold button is visible. Apparently #1 is working fine, but #2 is failing. I'm not sure exactly why that is.

Did you perhaps initially set up WinningPoker with a different skin? Can you try Removing and re-Including the site, and testing this issue specifically again (when facing or calling an allin when your betbox isn't visible)? If it still fails, can you try creating a File -> New Layout with a different slot size, basing it off of a WinningPoker table that you resize with your mouse, and see if it changes anything?


I have found I am having this same issue, particularly noticeable vs every all in, and I am usually wanting to call and it folds my hand. Is there an easy way to be able to smoothly cycle between tables in a stack? None of the options i have tried so far(cycle stack forward, activate urgent table, and send table to buttom) work very well. In all of them it seems to change tables for a split second, but then whatever table was on top typically moves right back. I for sure have the auto switch between tables option turned off(playing on WPN).
Posted by Jon - 03-07-2016, 02:35 PM
Did you get this problem fixed? I am having the same issue it seems on WPN, not all tables are popping up. I haven't set the software up with any other skin either. Need to figure out a way to fix this asap!!
Posted by DS1 - 03-02-2016, 09:34 PM
No it does eventually succeed.

Actually its been behaving better these days so maybe it jsut fixed itself.
Posted by SaT_Admin - 02-27-2016, 12:53 AM
(02-26-2016, 03:21 PM)DS1 Wrote: I tried changing the video card in my cpu, found a ton of dust and did not clean it, could that actually affect my internet connection? I am connected vie cable and wired in.

No this wouldn't affect your internet connection.

(02-26-2016, 03:21 PM)DS1 Wrote: I mean I also noticed some oddly timed browser lags in the same time period as the lags w SaT. Possibly could be related but the only other difference is that the internet guy came and drilled a new hole in the wall so i could move my router to the basement. I am using the same cable though, just one splitter added to extend it a bit. My connection speed has been mostly at 90 mbps DL but occasionally at 30 mbps, steady aty 12 UL and always an 11-12 ping.

I should note that often wherever there is lag, some programs like my actual poker sites and netflix work fine while others like SaT and youtube do not.

If random things are working (poker clients, netflix) and random are not (SaT, youtube) then this will be very difficult to diagnose.

Although the software lags with the "Please wait..." message, it does eventually succeed correct? Or does it fail with an "Internet connection error" message?
Posted by DS1 - 02-26-2016, 03:21 PM
I tried changing the video card in my cpu, found a ton of dust and did not clean it, could that actually affect my internet connection? I am connected vie cable and wired in.

I mean I also noticed some oddly timed browser lags in the same time period as the lags w SaT. Possibly could be related but the only other difference is that the internet guy came and drilled a new hole in the wall so i could move my router to the basement. I am using the same cable though, just one splitter added to extend it a bit. My connection speed has been mostly at 90 mbps DL but occasionally at 30 mbps, steady aty 12 UL and always an 11-12 ping.

I should note that often wherever there is lag, some programs like my actual poker sites and netflix work fine while others like SaT and youtube do not.
Posted by SaT_Admin - 02-26-2016, 09:03 AM
(02-26-2016, 08:59 AM)DS1 Wrote: actually i do use a different skin on this site than b4.

So i guess removing and re-including will probably solve that one. Thanks.

Yes that could definitely affect SaT from not detecting the all-in situations.

(02-26-2016, 08:59 AM)DS1 Wrote: Te problem with connecting to the site.  It was not a problem until this week. about 2 days ago i noticed signifigant lag starting and stopping SaT. 

It is about 90% of the time these last few days, with 10% of the time I get no lag at all.
(02-26-2016, 09:00 AM)DS1 Wrote: I did cancel my sub, then make a new one. Perhaps the security is holding me upbecause of the difference in license key info w the same old machine info?

I don't think cancelling your subscription should matter, or using a new license key. Did you install anything new on your machine, such as a VPN program or Hola browser app, or anything that may affect your connections?
Posted by DS1 - 02-26-2016, 09:00 AM
I did cancel my sub, then make a new one. Perhaps the security is holding me upbecause of the difference in license key info w the same old machine info?
Posted by DS1 - 02-26-2016, 08:59 AM
actually i do use a different skin on this site than b4.

So i guess removing and re-including will probably solve that one. Thanks.

Te problem with connecting to the site.  It was not a problem until this week. about 2 days ago i noticed signifigant lag starting and stopping SaT. 

It is about 90% of the time these last few days, with 10% of the time I get no lag at all.
Posted by SaT_Admin - 02-25-2016, 06:01 PM
As for pressing Stop, that delay may just have been because the website may have been offline. If the program is encountering a delay connecting to the website, then you will notice that lag. Usually this isn't a problem, but the site was offline for about 25 minutes a few days ago. This is the same as when you are switching to a different layout. Any time you see that "Please wait.." message, it means that SaT is attempting to connect to the website. This happens at a few different times. 1. Upon program launch, SaT checks the website for a new version. 2. Upon 'Start' it checks to validate your license or trial. 3. Upon 'Stop' or close, it unlocks your license. Do you always see this problem or was it just that day? The delay you're noticing should NOT be happening regularly. When the main website is down, SaT tries to first connect to the main website, and if it fails, it then tries a backup website. Thats the cause of the delay. If you are seeing this regularly then its definitely an issue.

'Left mouse click detection' simply controls what happens if you click on the 'fold' button when a table is in the grid, in which case it will move the table back to the stack. And also inf\ 'Move to grid' = 'When entering pot', it will also detect if you clicked 'call' or 'bet' and move the table from stack to grid. If you are using a Tile only mode, then this setting shouldn't matter for either of those as far as I remember.
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