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Posted by SaT_Admin - 08-06-2019, 09:08 PM |
(08-06-2019, 02:57 AM)question1234 Wrote: I checked again and the reason why the tables jump back to the grid w/o action needed is because they detect them as old tables (which jump into my grid). Oh ok good catch. Old Tables are any table that hasn't required action within the last X minutes. It could be because you've busted, or it could be because you're sitting out, or it could be because the tournament is on a break, or it could be because people are stalling, etc. The only thing that SaT checks is the time between the last required action https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/table-types |
Posted by question1234 - 08-06-2019, 02:57 AM |
I checked again and the reason why the tables jump back to the grid w/o action needed is because they detect them as old tables (which jump into my grid). Sure I can config old tables not to jump into the grid but why they get detected as old tables in the first place even I didnt bust in those? |
Posted by SaT_Admin - 08-06-2019, 02:40 AM |
(08-05-2019, 11:50 PM)question1234 Wrote: The FAILURE RESIZING errors pretty much stopped.Thats good at least (08-05-2019, 11:50 PM)question1234 Wrote: The lags got a bit better but still very bad with more than 20 tables. (08-05-2019, 11:50 PM)question1234 Wrote: I noticed another issue which is pretty annoying and might be even the reason:Well this can happen for a few different reasons, but basically it means that SaT is thinking the fold/call/bet buttons are visible on the table. This could be because the wrong colors were grabbed during Include Site setup, or it could be because SaT is having problems scanning the site. What site does it happen on? All sites? Only a particular site? You can run this Test and try to figure out when/why it might be happening, and there are some solutions to try too: https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/ta...ncorrectly But, this problem shouldn't contribute to the lag I wouldn't think |
Posted by question1234 - 08-05-2019, 11:50 PM |
Here a short feedback. The FAILURE RESIZING errors pretty much stopped. The lags got a bit better but still very bad with more than 20 tables. I turned on the dGPU but didnt improved that much as I thought. I noticed another issue which is pretty annoying and might be even the reason: My tables jump to the grid without any action required very freqently! Why is that? |
Posted by SaT_Admin - 07-30-2019, 04:38 PM |
Well Microgaming and Stars should never get the FAILURE RESIZING errors, so if you are seeing them, then I would guess they are related to your lag problem. But nothing you said gives me any clues, so I'm not really sure what the problem could be just yet. As far as the Advanced Options, almost everyone should keep the first "activate table when action required" setting turned on. This should not impact performance at all anyway. The only settings that might cause lower performace would be the PW scan mode (which you're not using anyway), or maybe the "Highlight active table" because that would be an extra thing that has to be drawn. But still I don't think that should be a huge drain on the system. I typically leave "activate table under mouse" turned off. Maybe the hybrid GPU has an effect, I'm not sure. My old laptop had that, I think it was called NVIDIA Optimus. It would switch between the integrated Intel GPU, or the dedicated Nvidia GPU depending on the application. I think there was also an option in the BIOS where I could choose to always have it on or off. Maybe you can try different settings and see if that matters or not. Also maybe see if you have an graphics drivers updates. Let me know what you find |
Posted by question1234 - 07-30-2019, 12:03 PM |
I think I might found the problem. My gaming laptop has a hybrid GPU. I checked if my poker tools esp. SAT and PT4 are using the strong GPU but they didnt. I forced the GPU to run when Is tart my poker tools. Im convident this will resolve my issues. I will let you know. I plan to grind tomorrow again. |
Posted by question1234 - 07-30-2019, 09:43 AM |
(07-30-2019, 05:21 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote: You say its most often a Betsson table. So are you seeing the FAILURE RESIZING for the Betsson table? I don't think you should be seeing that error for Microgaming tables and definitely not StarsYes those are always FAILURE RESIZING ERRORS. In this point I was not sure. I would need to check it again. Maybe its only winamax then. Now I am confused. I will let you know if it happens on other sites than winamax too. (07-30-2019, 05:21 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote: I wonder if all of the problems are due to your lagging. But I can't be sure.Yes. I think those FAILURE RESIZING ERRORS occur more often when I have many tables often. (07-30-2019, 05:21 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote: Can you describe what the lag is? What exactly happens?First you just notice lags, like short delay between pressing the action hotkey and the table to receive it and jump back to the stack. But it already interrupts the game flow a lot and increases the tilt factor. But it is still better than playing without SAT. When it is really bad than literally nothing works anymore. The mouse cursor is moving in slow motion and the table management of SAT (moving tales into and out of the grid) doesn't catch up anymore. It gets unplayable and I end up sitting out everywhere. (07-30-2019, 05:21 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote: I too would initially guess that maybe you have a very intense HUD, and maybe your PC is having trouble redrawing the HUD each time SaT keeps moving tables around.As I mentioned the problem occurs also when I shutdown pokertracker completely. It gets a bit better than but still unplayable with 20 tables plus. So yes the HUD has an impact on it but not that big. (07-30-2019, 05:21 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote: Your settings seem fine, and your PC looks plenty powerful. Is there anything else on your PC that you may suspect could be causing this? Do you ever notice any other slowdowns, or only when poker+HUD+SaT?Yes I think the PC should be able to manage it too. I dont run any other programs while grinding. Not even a browser. I can try to turn off bitdefender internet security 2019 while grinding to see it it still occurs. I whitelisted there all poker related tools and run all programs as Admin. So no idea what could cause the lags unfortunately. Any idea how to find out? Another question: I noticed there are two ways for me to adjust my config for my usecase: 1. 2. I think the best experience would be for me if the table under the mouse gets automatically active and highlighted. Which settings should I use for the best performance? Does activating and highlighting cause performance issues? If so i dont really need it since I always know where my cursor is currently and just send the actions to the table under mouse. Does increasing the action_delay value help maybe? Not really right? Because folding works. Whatelse can I try? |
Posted by SaT_Admin - 07-30-2019, 05:21 AM |
(07-30-2019, 03:02 AM)question1234 Wrote: - I also needed to use a different SAT version to solve my winamax problems (version=2.98.03d) see: https://www.stackandtile.com/forum/showt...p?tid=1968I've updated that thread with a new version, please check it out (07-30-2019, 03:02 AM)question1234 Wrote: - sometimes during session SAT doesnt recognize a table and it gets ignored. I need to hover my mouse then over this table and use my "ignore table" hotkey so the table gets "unignored" and jumps back to the grid. I estimate it happens 6 times per hour with around 15-20 tables. Most often its a betsson table. But sometimes also winamax or stars. If using the hotkey to "un-ignore" the table successfully works for you, and those tables get recognized, then I would ask, are you seeing the FAILURE RESIZING errors for each of those tables? Because that is the only time SaT would ever ignore a table. Otherwise, the tables should move to the grid as soon as SaT detects the table along with the title text to see if it matches. You say its most often a Betsson table. So are you seeing the FAILURE RESIZING for the Betsson table? I don't think you should be seeing that error for Microgaming tables and definitely not Stars I wonder if all of the problems are due to your lagging. But I can't be sure. Can you describe what the lag is? What exactly happens? I too would initially guess that maybe you have a very intense HUD, and maybe your PC is having trouble redrawing the HUD each time SaT keeps moving tables around. Because I have had some players use SaT with 40+ tables So I'd like to try to figure out what's going on with the lagging. Your settings seem fine, and your PC looks plenty powerful. Is there anything else on your PC that you may suspect could be causing this? Do you ever notice any other slowdowns, or only when poker+HUD+SaT? |
Posted by question1234 - 07-30-2019, 03:02 AM |
I use SAT for quit a while and I never want to miss it again. Unfortunately I have lagging issues with a high number of tables of several clients which makes me lose a ton of money. So please help me to setup the optimal config for my use case. Here my System: - XMG Gaming laptop - NVidea GeForce GTX 1060 (6GB) - portable monitor USB 3 - I needed to use a custom scale for SAT to work as described here: https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/help/windows-10-fix - I also needed to use a different SAT version to solve my winamax problems (version=2.98.03d) see: https://www.stackandtile.com/forum/showt...p?tid=1968 - Pokertracker 4 HUD (problem also occures without it running) I play MTTs only on: - pokerstars.eu - pokerstars.es - winamax - 888 - betsson / microgaming My SAT use case: - stack and tile - 12 table grid (6 per screen) - tables which require action jump into the grid - I hover with my mouse over any table in the grid which needs action and use hotkeys to make an action. - depending on my hotkey I use the table jumps back to the stack (i.e. "Fold+Stack") or stays in the grid (i.e. "Fold", if I want to observe the table after sending my action i.e.) - in this scenario I might to use the hotkey to send all tables back to the stack "Stack all tables" - I also have the option to use my mouse (left click), tables stay in the grid then So in short: - tables are stacked - action required --> table/s jump into a free slot of the grid - I need to hover my mouse anywhere above the table I want send an action to. So the Cursor doesnt jump automatically there. This way I can choose which table I want to send an action to with my mouse - default: I fold/call/bet and table jumps back into the stack - sometimes: I fold/call/bet and table stay in the grid so I can observe it. When I am done with observing I use the "stack all tables" hotkey If thats not clear for you I can make a short video how I want to use it. - sometimes during session SAT doesnt recognize a table and it gets ignored. I need to hover my mouse then over this table and use my "ignore table" hotkey so the table gets "unignored" and jumps back to the grid. I estimate it happens 6 times per hour with around 15-20 tables. Most often its a betsson table. But sometimes also winamax or stars. When I reach more than about 18 tables + the lagging is very bad and I cant continue playing. I tried to close PT4 + HUD but even then its very laggy so I guess the issue is SAT. Here is my current config. Im sure I dont need all option available for this use case. Please help me to solve the performance / lag issues for high num of tables. Code: [settings] TY |