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Posted by SaT_Admin - 11-24-2021, 11:23 PM
(11-21-2021, 01:07 AM)SaT_Admin Wrote:
(11-20-2021, 07:41 PM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: Also, I have an idea for your bet x bb:

Not sure if its practical, but can't you use 'increase bet' instead of calculating the bb, basically by 'Bet 10 BB', use 5 incremental increases and then execute bet? You said never_calc_increase_decrease_bet=1 made use of mouse wheel up/down.

Basically clicking 'Bet 10 BB' hotkey will execute +5 incremental increases, (+5 wheel up) and then execute bet (assuming it's on in settings)?

This would eliminate the neeed to 'calculate' it?

Would love this, as mouse wheel seemed quite stable when I used it (only used it for like 30-40 clicks)

Interesting idea, I hadn't considered this. On a first thought, one issue I see would be whether or not the first wheelup would send 1bb or would send minbet/minraise. We would first need to delete everything from the betbox, and then send wheelup clicks. But if we're already facing a bet, maybe the poker site would put a minraise into the betbox on the first wheel up. I'd have to test it a little bit. Of course, the method would be optional, likely with another manual config change, so even if it didn't work, you could revert back. I'll update this thread after some investigation

The problem is as I feared:

On both GG and PokerStars, using WheelUp starts off at the minraise size. If you then try to clear the betbox and set it to 0, the actual 3rd bet/raise button does not update, and then subsequent WheelUps simply increase the existing size shown on that button
Posted by SaT_Admin - 11-21-2021, 01:07 AM
(11-20-2021, 07:41 PM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: Also, I have an idea for your bet x bb:

Not sure if its practical, but can't you use 'increase bet' instead of calculating the bb, basically by 'Bet 10 BB', use 5 incremental increases and then execute bet? You said never_calc_increase_decrease_bet=1 made use of mouse wheel up/down.

Basically clicking 'Bet 10 BB' hotkey will execute +5 incremental increases, (+5 wheel up) and then execute bet (assuming it's on in settings)?

This would eliminate the neeed to 'calculate' it?

Would love this, as mouse wheel seemed quite stable when I used it (only used it for like 30-40 clicks)

Interesting idea, I hadn't considered this. On a first thought, one issue I see would be whether or not the first wheelup would send 1bb or would send minbet/minraise. We would first need to delete everything from the betbox, and then send wheelup clicks. But if we're already facing a bet, maybe the poker site would put a minraise into the betbox on the first wheel up. I'd have to test it a little bit. Of course, the method would be optional, likely with another manual config change, so even if it didn't work, you could revert back. I'll update this thread after some investigation
Posted by GGpokerrrr - 11-20-2021, 07:41 PM
Also, I have an idea for your bet x bb:

Not sure if its practical, but can't you use 'increase bet' instead of calculating the bb, basically by 'Bet 10 BB', use 5 incremental increases and then execute bet? You said never_calc_increase_decrease_bet=1 made use of mouse wheel up/down.

Basically clicking 'Bet 10 BB' hotkey will execute +5 incremental increases, (+5 wheel up) and then execute bet (assuming it's on in settings)?

This would eliminate the neeed to 'calculate' it?

Would love this, as mouse wheel seemed quite stable when I used it (only used it for like 30-40 clicks)
Posted by GGpokerrrr - 11-20-2021, 07:27 PM
Thank you for help.

'increase bet', 'decrease bet' just become smooth and reliable (never_calc_increase_decrease_bet=1). Thank you!

Also going to try to play without using bet x bb hotkey, now that I can basically use 4 betsizes. I will 3-bet by using these pre-flop raising with example 70% pot preflop IP, and 120% OOP, by using 'betsize 3' and 'betsize 4'. (I only lose All-in hotkey, but I can do that manually).

I also weren't really using the stacking function as I mostly play Rush & Cash (Max 4 tables anyway).

Will try your new version.

But probably wont have any particular feedback for your new version as I'm gonna try eliminating bet pot% and bet x bb.

Also, big fan of this software, allows me to play using laptop in bed without mouse, love it!

Can give you an update in like 50-100k hands (usually play 10k hands pr day I play)
Posted by SaT_Admin - 11-20-2021, 09:21 AM
(11-20-2021, 07:01 AM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: Issues with misfiring 'bet x bb + stack table' on GGpoker. It happens rarely, but when it happens in hurts!
...
The bug makes it really scary to play deep stack for 300 bb+....
First, for safety reasons like this, it is best not to use the Advanced Options to auto click bet for these betting hotkeys. And similarly not use the +Stack versions of the hotkeys, if you can avoid it. Then you can visually verify for yourself that the correct betsize was sent to the betbox, incase of bugs like this. Of course, I'm aware that this warning isn't very practical, and would significantly slow you down when multitabling. But I always like to throw it out there


(11-20-2021, 07:01 AM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: There has been 0 misfires with 'betsize 1', 'betsize 2' and 'betsize 3', unfortunately betsize 3 has to be a POT bet, so i'm missing a betting button
The "BetSizeX" hotkeys are always going to be reliable, because all SAT does is send clicks to those preset betsize buttons on the table.

In contrast, the "Bet x BB" and "Bet Pot%" and "Increase/Decrease Bet" hotkeys need to do calculations, and then manually click the betbox, and then send keystrokes in for the new betsize.

Also, the 3rd betsize button only needs to be set to "Pot" if you are using SAT's "Bet Pot%" hotkeys. If you aren't using those, then you don't need that set. Same with the 4th button being set to "All-in", its only used for SAT's "All-in" hotkey.


(11-20-2021, 07:01 AM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: 'Increase bet' and 'decrease bet' works but is laggy, and sometimes misfires, but without any consqeuences as the bet isn't executed.
You could add a setting in SAT to change how the Increase/DecreaseBet hotkeys work. Adding this line to your File->Current Layout file underneath [settings]:

Code:
[settings]
never_calc_increase_decrease_bet=1

will tell SAT to either click the +/- button on the table (like Party has), or if a site doesnt have these buttons (like GG), then SAT will just send a mouse Wheel Up/Down click. In this case, SAT will not do any math, and simply forward the WheelUp click to the poker client. This should be more reliable. The downside of this is that you cannot use custom increment values such as fractional BBs (since no math is performed). You are limited to whatever the GG client increments for a WheelUp click, since that's all SAT will now send.



(11-20-2021, 07:01 AM)GGpokerrrr Wrote: Issues with misfiring 'bet x bb + stack table' on GGpoker. It happens rarely, but when it happens in hurts!

About 5-7 misfires in 20k hands: It's like a roulette thing, seems about 1 in 1000 chance I get a random number executed as a bet.

While this doesn't seem like that much of an issure, it truely is
...
Any help or bug fix will be highly appriciated.
Ok now on to the real issue. This has been reported by a few people over the past few months. I haven't been able to isolate the exact reason, because as you note, it happens so randomly.

However, I have found that by changing the method of sending the keystrokes to the betbox, some players have found it to be more reliable, and so in the next public version, I am changing to this alternative method by default. I'm guessing you're using the latest public release version 2.99.15? You can try the latest development version 2.99.15q here:

https://www.stackandtile.com/sat/tmp/Sta...29915q.exe

Please let me know your experience, if this works better for you. I understand maybe a session or two might not be enough to tell. You'll have to guage how frequently the bug previously occurred, compared to this new version. I look forward to your input.
Posted by GGpokerrrr - 11-20-2021, 07:01 AM
Hi, 

Issues with misfiring 'bet x bb + stack table' on GGpoker. It happens rarely, but when it happens in hurts!

About 5-7 misfires in 20k hands: It's like a roulette thing, seems about 1 in 1000 chance I get a random number executed as a bet.

While this doesn't seem like that much of an issure, it truely is... example that just happend:

I 3bet QTs preflop BB vs BTN. He calls. Flop is 456, I click button for 'bet 15 bb + stack table', and the bug makes it an allin, this time it was 100bb ($200), I was drawing dead.

There has been 0 misfires with 'betsize 1', 'betsize 2' and 'betsize 3', unfortunately betsize 3 has to be a POT bet, so i'm missing a betting button, and has compensated this with using 'bet x bb + stack table' post-flop (0 of maybe 5000 actions). It is also abit scary deep-stack pre-flop, but pre-flop allins are more forgiving.

'Increase bet' and 'decrease bet' works but is laggy, and sometimes misfires, but without any consqeuences as the bet isn't executed.

The bug makes it really scary to play deep stack for 300 bb+....

Any help or bug fix will be highly appriciated.

Sincerely,
Mr Frustrated