Ok...
That ini setting is for the activation command that SaT sends on top of whatever Windows might do.
I have added this info to the help page.
Yes, the 'Tile only' and 'Stack only' play modes are nothing special, all they do is pre-set other settings in the software. Those other settings can still be changed if you manually edit the ini. In fact, if you choose 'Stack and Tile' play mode, but choose the same specific settings that are used for 'Tile', such as New Tables = Grid, Stack Slot = 0, Move To Grid = Never, you would reproduce the same style of play as 'Tile'.
This means that there is a problem with your Betsafe setup. SaT seems to ALWAYS think that action is required on Betsafe tables.
So you understand, during Include Site setup, SaT grabs the color of the Fold button at a specific x,y coordinate. SaT will keep checking that x,y location for the color it saw during setup. If it sees that color, then it triggers Action Required. This works in most cases. However, suppose the Fold button color is black, and the table is black too. Then SaT will always think that the Fold button is visible.
If that were the case, then if Betsafe is highlighted but no action is actually required, and then 888 requires action, the highlighter would not move to 888 because even though Betsafe does not require action, SaT still thinks that it DOES require action, based on the color at the fold button location.
This can DEFINITELY be causing your mouse jumping/border changing problems!
My guess is that you made some mistakes during Include Site setup, and/or the default Betsafe table was the problem mentioned above.
It looks like it was a problem with Action Required detection all along. Thats why I suggested to always use the highlighter just so that we can see if the highlighter changes too.
Its easier to diagnose problems with Action Required detection when people are using 'Stack and Tile' play mode, because tables are popping out and back. When using 'Tile' play mode, the only thing that Action Required detection does is change the active table in focus.
And for those who I suspect are having this problem, my first response for people is always to remove and re-Include the sites. It looks like thats what solved it for you.
I'm glad that everything works as expected. I can breathe easy now and get ready for the next release. Hopefully I didn't break anything.
(01-07-2013, 10:18 PM)Guest Wrote: So what i don't like here is New tables!!!If the table has just been created by the poker site, Windows itself will probably activate and focus the table, and theres not much I can do to prevent that.
I have read lot of info given at your HELP section and homepage.
I understand meaning of New tables.
I even found how to not make active New tables by putting in setting file activate_new_tables=0
But it seems that it doesnt help me.
I was thinking to deactivate New table recognition and maybe was thinking thats why red frame jumps where SaT thinks is New table.
Sometimes SaT sees it as new even if its not new. I allready found info about New tables meaning that it is more for Cash table players, where they need to SIT IN when empty seat comes up. But i play only SNG so i dont need any NEW TABLE activating.
And even when i put activate_new_tables=0 it anyways puts red frame around new tables... (yes i saved and restarted SaT before use new settings)
That ini setting is for the activation command that SaT sends on top of whatever Windows might do.
I have added this info to the help page.
Quote:I even found that when u put layout settings on TILE, there is still possible to edit positioning of table styles, i mena under LAYOUT tab u have 3 settings under MOVE TO GRID and these are: Never, When Action Rewuired, After entering pot. I know these settings has to do nothing with my TILE setting but sometimes they are available after you edit Setting INI file and those 3 settings in layout tab is visible because if u change iNI file it changes layout available settings. Dont know is problems here, but it is not 100% clear even for me, dont know how about other users.
Yes, the 'Tile only' and 'Stack only' play modes are nothing special, all they do is pre-set other settings in the software. Those other settings can still be changed if you manually edit the ini. In fact, if you choose 'Stack and Tile' play mode, but choose the same specific settings that are used for 'Tile', such as New Tables = Grid, Stack Slot = 0, Move To Grid = Never, you would reproduce the same style of play as 'Tile'.
(01-07-2013, 10:35 PM)Guest Wrote: AND
Just opened one table on 888 and one on Betsafe
Setting TILE, both in GRID.
Everything is ON. (Activate and move and frame)
Red frame and mouse is on Betsafe
Action on 888 - frame and cursors stays on Betsafe - no action!
I move mouse to 888, make action (Fold) and FRAME and MOUSE jums back to Betsafe table - where is NO ACTION!
This means that there is a problem with your Betsafe setup. SaT seems to ALWAYS think that action is required on Betsafe tables.
So you understand, during Include Site setup, SaT grabs the color of the Fold button at a specific x,y coordinate. SaT will keep checking that x,y location for the color it saw during setup. If it sees that color, then it triggers Action Required. This works in most cases. However, suppose the Fold button color is black, and the table is black too. Then SaT will always think that the Fold button is visible.
If that were the case, then if Betsafe is highlighted but no action is actually required, and then 888 requires action, the highlighter would not move to 888 because even though Betsafe does not require action, SaT still thinks that it DOES require action, based on the color at the fold button location.
This can DEFINITELY be causing your mouse jumping/border changing problems!
(01-08-2013, 01:33 AM)Guest Wrote: GOOD NEWS !
After i set up Betsafe mod from Grinders.org and after i removed all sites from SaT and then added again, and set active highlight window to OFF, but Move Mouse - ON i came to this:
MOUSE AUTOMATICALLY MOVES TO ANY TABLE WHEN ACTION REQUIRED. WORKS ON 888 AND BETSAFE.
WORKED 100 OUT OF 100 !
And just now i enabled highlight to ON and know what?
RED FRAME MOVES LIKE IT SHOULD !
I believe everything works now!!!
Donkt know what happened, maybe it was you at your side editting some errors, i dont know, but all i can say, my smile on face is very big!
My guess is that you made some mistakes during Include Site setup, and/or the default Betsafe table was the problem mentioned above.
It looks like it was a problem with Action Required detection all along. Thats why I suggested to always use the highlighter just so that we can see if the highlighter changes too.
Its easier to diagnose problems with Action Required detection when people are using 'Stack and Tile' play mode, because tables are popping out and back. When using 'Tile' play mode, the only thing that Action Required detection does is change the active table in focus.
And for those who I suspect are having this problem, my first response for people is always to remove and re-Include the sites. It looks like thats what solved it for you.
I'm glad that everything works as expected. I can breathe easy now and get ready for the next release. Hopefully I didn't break anything.
